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Greenhouse + Structured Water = Better Cucumbers & Cleaner Pipes

DAM: A lot of people are asking the question what is structured water and why should I care? More specifically, why should anyone believe that a device that relies on no external forces, such as magnets, electricity or filters, could actually effect water quality in any measurable way? Some answers are easier to demonstrate than they are to explain.

With that in mind, I hit the road. We're on our way to a greenhouse outside of Coolidge, Arizona between Phoenix and Tucson. We're going to meet Roger Dagget, whose impression of the Structured Water Unit began with some amazing cucumbers that his greenhouse yielded. But it didn't end there. In addition to an amazing yield of cucumbers which originally got his attention, Roger noticed some other effects of his change to the Structured Water Unit which, if we didn't know better, might even be considered mystical.

And by the way, by the time we learned of these amazing cucumbers, they were already at market and had been sold. So as it turned out, the cucumbers were just a beginning. Roger starts off by showing us some promising results he is experiencing now with tomatoes.

ROGER: What we're attempting to do is grow high nutrient value produce. Without going into too much detail, we use a refractometer to measure the nutrient density of our produce. Our objective is not to grow so much high volume produce as you can see we have here, but to make sure that each piece of produce that we have is full of nutrition.

ADAM: I am going to interrupt and ask why is that a problem? Is there some question about nutritional value that we're not aware of? That is what I would like to know.

ROGER: When I started this project 9 years ago I started in the water end of the business and I started working with structured water clear back in the year 2000, and after I figured out how to structure water the next question that came was how do we build the soil? The water will carry the nutrient to the soil but what is our base for soil? I looked for the answer from one coast to the other.

Finally I came up with the equation that said it doesn't matter how green, tall and bushy a plant is, what matters is the nutrient density of the plant. You can measure that with an instrument called a refractometer, and it gives a reading called Brix. I started testing the produce I have been buying at high, high retail prices, all organic produce, high prices, and I was depressed for 30 days because they were all low nutrient density. I got low readings on the Refractometer.

ADAM: So they looked pretty?

ROGER: Looked great!

ADAM: Everything was great, they were priced high, as you would expect from something that had those good looks, but you also assume it has some nutrient value, but really the most important aspect of it was missing.

ROGER: Right, that being the nutrient density. So the long road started. There are several iterations and this is where we have ended up.

We have had some growth explosion here, because if you look over here, here is the trellis wire and this is row number 1 and row number 2, row number 3, row number 4. These are 83 inches in height right here.

Now, the game plan was that row number 1 was supposed to go right here and this is where it would grow. And then we put row number 2 here. As you can see, row number 1 has expanded clear over here into row number 4, so we have got double the growth that was anticipated, based on the paradigm that was shown to us to grow by.

We also have an error down here (indicating). The recommendation was to put the tomatoes eight inches apart. I knew I was going to have a little more energy than the eight inches so I put them a foot apart. And you can see even at a foot apart we came in so dense that they actually cannibalized each other; you can't tell where one plant begins and the other one ends.

You can see we have a tremendous amount of tomatoes set here. The really good news is I have only had three of them turn red so far, and one of them Brixed out at 12.2. Now, my goal was to get to 14. Whether any of these get to 14 or I don't know, but I tested tomatoes from one coast to the other and never got one in double digit. I have talked to people that have had double digit tomatoes but I never personally tested one. Most of the tomatoes I have tested out of the local gardens around the Coolidge area here have tested below 5. That is why I was depressed for 30 days, because I paid five bucks a pound for tomatoes and they were virtually below par.

That is one of the reasons that we have such a health crisis in the United States today and why it is so hard for people to stick with a good diet because when they give up their Big Mac and they give up their Hostess Twinkies to eat the tomato or a carrot, they get one that has got such low nutritive value that they don't experience a change in their health and so they say why keep doing this?

ADAM: That's true, and there is a trust factor, there is a fiduciary factor from the producer's standpoint. We're going to these stores, buying and specifying these types of products with the expectation that they have in them what nature has intended to be in them, and yet when it becomes an acceptable practice to irradiate these products or do other types of things and still call them organic, then a huge disservice is being perpetrated.

ROGER: Absolutely. The exciting thing about it is the first refractometer that I got that was used over at Bottled Water Images cost $5,000. I sent it back to the manufacturer to get it calibrated to make sure it was working, and talked to them, and that is how much that unit sold for new.

Today, just like everything else in the world of technology, you can buy a wonderful little refractometer that is much simpler to operate and just as accurate and it costs you $300. So there is absolutely no reason for anyone not to have a refractometer. You can actually get the analog refractometer today for under $100.

And it is just like everything else. The country with the longest life span on the planet is Japan (latest research actually puts it at second but only barely) and where are these units coming from? Japan. They understand refractometers in Japan. You're not going to fool them with the produce. They all check it over there. And that is a place where we need to get here today to solve our health care problems.

ADAM: Let's talk about the cucumber plant that you have. This is exciting.

ROGER: I just threw a few cucumbers in for the fun of it, and I did a watering on a foliar spray of the cucumber on a Saturday, and I had used the structured water and I had used a humus product and I applied it, and I usually don't come to the greenhouse on Sunday and so it was Monday morning when I first came back to the greenhouse. I walked in and I looked at that cucumber and it looked like an excited cucumber. It was standing up just like this! And I go holy smoke, so I got the trellis string out and I said we got to run this puppy up.

So I continued to water on a daily basis with the structured water. We give it some compost tea and some other formulas once a week, the foliar feed with the structured water, and the cucumber got to a height of over 15 feet. From that cucumber plant I harvested in excess of 56 pounds of #1 cucumbers! This doesn't count the juicers that I took off of there that we just juiced because they didn't turn out perfect. So 56 pounds.

Now, Briden Big Charles and I were over at Mesa College by invitation at their Ag Department and we Brixed the cucumbers that they were growing there and they barely got over 1 on the refractometer scale. Mine didn't get to 14 where I wanted but they were over 6, so we had 500 percent nutrient density over what they are growing at the college there. So 56 pounds; a whole lot better than what you can get at the grocery store cucumbers. Some of them were two pounders. And they tasted good - they weren't bitter. That was the great part.

ADAM: You had some other effects from getting this structuring device on line. Talk about that.

ROGER: I cannot quantify on this side of the unit that the water made these better per se because I didn't have a control or whatever, even though we got great results and I wouldn't take the unit off for anything. But Clayton Nolte, the guy that builds the unit, told me when he was telling me about the unit that it would not only program the water on the outlet side of the unit, it would also program water on the inlet side of the unit, the feed side of the unit. Needless to say I didn't believe a word he was saying but I put the unit on anyway. It has got to program water on the feed side.

So three things that I have noticed out here. Number 1, I have an old mobile sitting over there, and domestic engineering is not my strong suit. It has a restroom in there with a toilet and it hasn't been scrubbed for quite some time and there was a tremendous film building up in the bowl. One day I noticed in there that the film was starting to lift. I'm the only one out here 99 percent of the time and I haven't been scrubbing the stool. Well, long story short, it finally hit me two or three days later it has got to be the water that is starting to pull the scum, the film off of the side of the toilet.

Now, over here on the other side we have an Reverse Osmosis unit. You know it is two 4 by 40 membranes in there. I have been working with 4 by 40 membranes since 1994 when I got the first water store, and those have to be cleaned two to three times a year, depending on usage and feed water. Now the membranes I have run at about 130 pounds pressure. When the pressure gets up to 150 pounds, you have to clean the membranes or you have to replace them. When you clean the membranes it is nasty chemicals and a nasty job and I don't like doing it.

ADAM: When the pressure goes up, does that mean they have sediment?

ROGER: When the pressure goes up it means your membrane is scaling, all the stuff you are trying to take out of the water is finally plugging up that membrane. The water pressure is going up. So I said I'll come back and clean you next week, since that is my favorite thing to do. I came back a week later and in 15 years I have never seen a membrane de-scale, but the pressure had gone from 150 back to 130, which is normal. 130 is where these membranes want to be running. Different types of membranes run at different pressures, but these run at 13O for the volume I want. It had gone from 150 to 130, so it de-scaled the membrane.

Now remember this on the feed side of the unit. This is what really amazed me about it. Also I have a waterwall here and I have a sump outside that we run the waterfall out of. It is not a good tank to have outside, it is a clear tank and it grows a lot of algae in there and you have to be diligent about taking care of it or it really gets bad. I was remiss. I walked out there one day and you couldn't see two inches into the tank it was so green and murky. You know my favorite thing to do is clean, "I'll clean you next weak".

I went back a week later and I could actually see the bottom of the tank. Hadn't done a thing. So when you read all the literature about how the water works and it tells you what it will do, you think that is hard to believe, but then when you experience it, you see the membrane de-scaling, you see the tank cleaning up, all on the feed side of the unit, that I can quantify.

ADAM: Now two other things; one of them had to do with fire ants. What happened?

ROGER: Again I can't contribute that all to the water but when I bought this property the guy I bought it from, one of the first things he handed me was a can of something ... I forget the name of it but we had a tremendous fire ant problem and I would pour some of it in on the hole and the next day they would all be dead but three days later there is a new mound of them over there and a new mound over there and all over the place, and you can drive around through the neighborhood here and see them. And I just noticed -- I don't know how long ago it was, 90 days ago, I said I haven't seen any fire ants around here lately.

And so what we have done is we have changed the energy pattern of the property here, because the insect comes, the rodent comes to take out what we shouldn't be eating. So the energy levels have changed here and they have left. I can go over to my neighbors and show you the fire ants, they are still over there, but on this property here, four acres, I haven't seen fire ants for at least 90 days.

ADAM: I know what the other thing was. The fact is you have had a structuring device online before putting this unit in, so a lot of these conditions were still present even with the other structuring device.

ROGER: The other structuring device I have had excellent results with, especially in the area of water savings. We have demonstrated that and had a couple different projects that we can save a lot of water by using this unit, but like you say the unit was on and the membranes have been scaling all these years with that unit on. And so the only time the membranes did not scale was after we put this other unit in (Structured Water Unit).

ADAM: We are talking about something that is totally green. It sounds hard to believe when there is no electricity, no magnets, nothing other than movement that is making something happen. And sometimes experience is the best way of really demonstrating what is possible.

ROGER: I still think there is a synergy effect of everything that we do, from the microbials that we propagate to the water that we use to just our attitudes; everything is energy. But definitely the water has contributed to the higher energy level that we have.

ADAM: Especially when you look at the other structuring device you had. Were you using the same types of like the humus and the other ... were those constant before?

ROGER: No. I'm fortunate that a lot of the things were but I had two variables come into play, the water and the humus. Both came into place at about the same time so I hadn't used those before.

ADAM: That is a good thing too. The nice thing about nature is that it is complimentary, they work together. It is not an antagonistic kind of situation where one thing is going to come in like the cavalry and do something to the bad guys; there is a synergistic approach. The water should be there. The minerals, the other aspects that the humus or humic or fulvic acid or whatever they are, they should be part of that too and they all work together to actually create what you are looking for. Thank you very much.

ROGER: You bet.

ADAM: I want you to thank Roger for sharing his experiences with the Structured Water Unit and my friend George Clark, a nutritionist and founder of Back Fence Nutrition, for joining me on this journey. You could say that Roger Dagget's story is one in 6 billion and you would be right, but it holds a key that is important to us all. Everyone needs water and everyone needs water that contains life, that contains energy, and water that has biophotons released that has been measured, a measurable increase in biophotons is water that has life within it. And in Roger's example you see what is possible. The changes that will occur for you are yours.

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